I was never a fan of the set-up...and I liked it even less when a group at the local UU church tried to form a CUUPs, and the other members of the congregation freaked because there were "witches" in their midst. If it had been a good fit, and the UUs were as open as a group as I was led to believe, then I though it wouldn't be a problem.

I am more worried, personally, about a friend of mine that had found a path to ministry *and* being pagan through the UU system. I hope this will not adversely affect her hope to go through the full ministry training.

I agree with you about the temple thing. Too many pagans are enamoured with the "were part of an ancient religion" going back to the dawn of time, and complaining about Christians stole all our things. We are never going to go back to a mythical "golden age", and have to realize that we have to make do with today's society, and build a system of worshipping The Gods as part of our society today. I though ADF have a system, but upon learning that the whole Indo-European cultural thing is a fairly old concept, and used to be called Aryan Culture, and thus was the basis of many bits of nastiness has led me to abandon ADF as long as they claim IE "foundation myth".

What is needed is a eyes wide open attempt at taking the best of the past and today, and creating something that will work *today*.